Dodson/Brooks Debate on Scriptural Silence
Ray Brooks' Third Affirmative
Proposition:
The silence of the scriptures constitutes liberty for the New
Testament church in its work, worship and service.
Affirm: Ray Brooks
Deny: Randy Dodson
This is my third and final affirmative. I will do the following
three things in this document:
1. Provide a general disclaimer for this debate.
2. Reaffirm my position as stated in the first two affirmatives.
3. Conclude with my respects to the religious debates forum.
I. The General Disclaimer
Over the years of my Christian pilgrimage, I have had the
privilege to discuss and debate many religious issues with people
from different backgrounds. Occasionally the question of
"silence" comes up. This has always been a fascinating and
tricky topic. Therefore, I would like to present a few thoughts
on "silence" and "authority" before I begin my final affirmative.
Randy and I both have been strong and firm in presenting our
arguments. I wondered from the beginning what strategy he would
use. Now I must make a confession: neither of us could possibly
win this discussion. The fact is that "silence" is a lack of
information. Logically, it has no authority. Silence can
neither grant liberty nor restrict behavior. I knew this when I
signed on, but because I am fascinated by the topic, I chose to
defend the proposition. In truth, neither Randy nor I have
defended the proposition that we signed to defend. Here is why:
Randy used the term "qualified silence" to defend his position.
He started with what God actually says, then proceeded to explain
what happens when you do something God doesn't say. That is not
silence. In order to defend the proposition, we must have no
teaching at all in scripture on the subject. Randy simply used
word trickery to get around true silence. He proved nothing
about silence at all.
And so did I, by the way. My use of passages referring to
Christian liberty do not address silence any more than Randy's
arguments do. My burden was to prove that silence constitutes
liberty. I proved that when we have no information (silence), we
must turn to other forms of authority and biblical principles to
determine what we may do. I did not prove anything about
silence, either.
Since neither of us proved the actual propositions, be both threw
the debate, but it was still good clean fun. I have enjoyed
giving the reason for the hope that is within me, and I know
Randy has as well.
II. Reaffirming my position
I'll make this short and sweet. I based my position on the
following premises:
First, my definitions:
"Silence of the scriptures" means lack of instruction. For the
scriptures to be silent, we must have no instruction of any kind
on a particular point. I affirm that such is the meaning of
silence, and will prove that the scriptures provide no
instruction relevant to the topic at hand.
"constitutes liberty" means within a biblically moral context,
the lack of instruction means we can do what seems best to us in
our culture to accomplish the purpose of the church's task.
"New Testament church" is a phrase that means people gathering
locally to worship Jesus Christ, teach His Word and serve their
local community in works and service for the purpose of being a
witness to the gospel.
"work, worship and service" means the practical activities
involved in worshiping God, His Son Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit
and ministering to both the lost and the saved in any context
(the local assembly or daily life).
The question that needs to be answered is this: do we really
have the freedom, within a moral context, to employ any form of
worship, work or service, in ministering to the lost or the
saved?
The following points establish my position:
1. Everything is permissible, but we choose those activities,
based on culture and the Word, that edify the body. (1 Cor 6:11-
14; 1 Cor 10:22-24)
2. We may use whatever means necessary to minister to the lost
and preach the gospel, within a moral and cultural context. (1
Cor 9:19-23)
3. Lifestyle issues, outside of explicit word of God morality,
are none of our business. Liberty in lifestyle is a KEY to
understanding the New Covenant. (Rom 14:1-8)
4. Freedom in worship. (Ephesians 3:12; Galatians 5:1)
5. The books of Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews are based on
Habakkuk 2:4, which states that we live by faith (as opposed to
law). Paul goes to the point of being obnoxious to prove that
judging others or approaching God based on law receives the
highest condemnation possible by God.
6. We live by faith in relationship, not law to gain approval.
7. Our approval from God is based on being in Christ by faith.
Based on these premises, I conclude that a Christian, in doing
the work, worship, and service of the church, has liberty to act
by faith, based on the liberty of the gospel, in performing his
duties. I have proven that. My affirmative burden is
discharged, and I thank the readers and Randy for their time.
Randy has offered no further rebuttal as shown below. Thank you
for reading.
Now, a bit of unpleasant business is at hand that I must deal
with before I close. Randy will note that I only addressed the
last 8 ½ pages of his 13 page second negative. Randy chose to
spend the first 4 ½ pages reaffirming his own position and asking
me questions about it. Since my job in this half does not
include answering his position, I rightly ignored it. Perhaps
Randy will act with greater wisdom in the future to make these
discussions more productive.
Concerning the last 8 ½ pages, Randy repeatedly used the
following paragraph to address every scripture I gave:
Note here that Brooks has made no effort to relate Hebrews to his
topic. The topic specifically requires him to prove that silence
grants liberty. Nothing whatsoever in this passage addresses
what the Scriptures do NOT say. Thus, I could hypothetically
admit all his arguments are true, but that would not sustain his
case. Ray's position is that where the Bible does not speak,
absolute liberty exists. He has not produced the first scripture
in proof of that. Not I Hebrews 8, not any other.
You read it for yourself, folks. Randy states that there is no
connection between my passages and the topic. But he refuses to
prove it. He simply did not give a rebuttal. And remember, he
provided this exact same paragraph for all of the passages I
gave. Bottom line: he did not give me a rebuttal. He has not
challenged my position AT ALL.
That being the case, my burden is done. I have affirmed my
position; Randy has not offered an argument. Thanks for reading
my third affirmative.
III. Conclusion:
There are many debates lined up in the forum. If I signed up for
another right now, it would be many months before I would be
debating. I am going to sit back and watch for a while. I have
enjoyed my year, and three debates. Thank you for reading.
In Defense of the Faith we hold dear, and the freedom we have in Christ Jesus,
Ray Brooks