Dodson/Brooks Debate on Scriptural Silence
Randy Dodson's Third Affirmative
Proposition:
The silence of the Scriptures restricts the New Testament church
in its work, worship and service.
Affirm: Randy Dodson
Deny: Ray Brooks
I open my third and final article for consideration under this
resolution with a couple of observations. One, Mr. Brooks has
failed entirely in presenting a negative case under the
proposition he agreed to debate. He has not discharged the
responsibility that is incumbent upon him as the negative
representative in this debate. It is the duty of the affirmative
to present a case for the proposition. It is then the duty of
the negative disputant to analyze and evaluate the arguments
presented by the affirmative. My opponent has not done this.
The truth of the business is that Mr. Brooks has no case of his
own at all. His lone futile endeavor at building a negative case
has been the attempt to instruct me in how my affirmative case
must be built. In so doing, he has ignored my affirmative case
(by his own admission in his second article), and failed to
construct a negative case of his own.
Second, as I peruse the two articles Mr. Brooks has submitted
thus far, I notice that he has not quoted a single passage of
scripture in support of his position. Not one time has Ray
Brooks gone to the Scriptures to support a single thing he has
said. He replied to some (nowhere near all) of the Scriptures I
presented in my first article, but quoted none directly. He made
a passing reference to Romans 8 in the same article. However,
Brooks has not referenced a single passage of scripture in
support of his position. Unfortunately he cannot now do so in
his third article, since I would have no opportunity to respond.
Mr. Brooks signed on the dotted line to debate a proposition
concerning what the Scriptures tech, and has utterly failed to
engage the topic in that manner.
Of course there is a very good reason for this. Mr. Brooks is in
error in his position, and there are no passages of scripture
that sustain it. It is not his fault. Mr. Brooks has done the
best he can do in building his case. However, at the end of the
day his position stands in opposition to the truth. This is made
abundantly clear from his lack of scriptural reference.
I pointed out in my first article that Brooks' position here
constitutes a contradiction on his part. He opened his first
article accepting the definitions I presented regarding the
proposition, including my definition of "the Scriptures" as the
66 books of the Bible. He then turned right around and has
insisted repeatedly that I prove my proposition in light of the
New Testament only. Brooks cannot accept my definitions on the
one hand, and then redefine them on the other. Since Brooks
accepted my definitions, if I prove my case in light of the
Scriptures (the 66 books of the canon), my affirmative burden is
discharged, period. Mr. Brooks accepted my definitions, and
agreed to deny a proposition concerning what the Scriptures
teach, but evidently had absolutely no intention of actually
denying the proposition at all.
Mr. Brooks in his second negative article maintains that in order
to sustain my position, I must prove that the two testaments
operate in the same fashion. Once again, he is mistaken. Note
first that I made no point of this issue in my second article.
This statement he assigns to me was made in passing, and I
attached no emphasis to it. I specifically noted in my second
article that this matter is a topic for another debate. Now, Mr.
Brooks, you've made a big issue in this debate surrounding taking
writers out of context, why did you take my statement out of
context here?
Friends, at this juncture Brooks has forfeited the debate, so
there is really no need to argue further. However, I want to be
as thorough as possible in answering the few arguments he has
made. Notice how Mr. Brooks' problems continue to build. I made
no issue out of the operation of the testaments. In addressing
this, Brooks has made a phantom point that is no point at all. I
have proved conclusively without rebuttal from Brooks that the
silence of the Scriptures is an eternal truth. That is,
scriptural silence was respected in Eden (Genesis 2:17), it was
respected at Sinai (Deuteronomy 4:2), it was respected in
Solomon's time (Proverbs 30:6), it was respected in Paul's time
(I Corinthians 4:6), it was respected in John's time (Revelation
22:18-19), and Maintain therefore that it must be respected
today. That is, respect for silence has applied to everyone who
has ever drawn breath from the beginning of time to date.
Naturally, that includes New Testament Christians, who comprise
the New Testament church. That fact brings this argument
squarely in line with the proposition, and my affirmative burden
of proof is entirely discharged.
I went over this point concerning the eternal nature of respect
for the Scriptures in great detail, citing parallel examples of
murder (Genesis 4), marriage (Matthew 19:8), nature (Proverbs
6:6) and salvation (Ephesians 3:11) to which Brooks made
absolutely no reply. Friends, the Scriptures teach that their
silence must be respected, and this debate flows affirmative in
the absence of argumentation from Brooks.
This issue concerning the operation of the testaments is
essentially an issue of grace versus law. I have two unsigned
propositions on the forum on this topic. I will be only too
happy to have Ray sign to defend his positions, but that is
another debate, and is of no relevance here.
The only other point that Ray covers in his second negative
article concerns specifics from the New Testament concerning
silence. Brooks contends that the passages and examples I cited
in my second affirmative were examples of elements, not methods.
Once again, Mr. Brooks is in error. I have two responses.
First, it should be noted that Mr. Brooks has no point here at
all. His attempt at separating elements and methods is nothing
more than a semantic subterfuge. Consider singing (Colossians
3:16, Ephesians 5:19), for example. If Mr. Brooks incorporates
"playing" as a part of the "how," then he misses the point
entirely. Singing and playing are not the equivalents of simply
singing; the combined actions do not involve the "how," they
constitute the addition or another element. On the other hand,
in simply singing, it may be fast or slow, loud or soft. Those
matters are flexible "hows" that do not corrupt the basic
instruction.
Second, consider this argument further. His argument incorrectly
assumes that methods and elements cannot, or do not coexist. The
truth of the business is that methods and elements NEVER exist
separate and apart from one another.
Note once again the examples I cited in my second affirmative.
The Bible requires singing in worship (Ephesians 5:19, Colossians
3:16). (Method: singing; element: voice) I affirm that
silence here is restrictive to the New Testament church regarding
other options (playing, choirs, solos, etc). Christians are
required to pray (I Thessalonians 5:17), (method praying;
element: prayerful heart) and further that prayer is extended to
the Father through the Son (John 14:6). Silence here is
restrictive again. Paul said that elders must be the husband of
one wife (I Timothy 3:2) (method: appointing elders; element:
married man). Silence is restrictive again. God commands alien
sinners to be immersed (Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16) (method:
immersion; element: water). Silence as to other options
(sprinkling, pouring) is prohibitive. Church government consists
of elders and deacons (I Timothy 3, Titus 1) (method:
establishing proper church governance; element: elders and
deacons). Silence concerning other organizational/governmental
approaches is restrictive. The New Testament church partook of
the Lord’s Supper on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7)
(method: communing; elements: day of the week, fruit of the
vine, unleavened bread). These few examples represent nowhere
near the entirety of the list. Mr. Brooks attempt to separate
methods and elements is absurd. Methods and elements always
coexist.
Note further that the logical force of Brooks' position is to
deny all the above. Thus, Brooks believes mechanical instruments
of music, addressing prayer to someone other than God, female
elders, sprinkling, church government consisting of other than
elders and deacons, and pizza with cola on the Lord's Table are
all acceptable. In making these statements it is not my
intention to put words in Ray's mouth. This is simply the
logical extension of his line of reasoning. It is the negative
position that the silence of the Scriptures need not be
respected. Therefore, Brooks can deny none of the above, whether
he personally affirms them, or not.
Ray charges me with misrepresenting his position in this debate.
He is mistaken. I misrepresented nothing. I have merely
demonstrated the logical progression of his position that he
cannot deny. It is Brooks' position that I Corinthians 4:6,
Hebrews 7:14 and Revelation 22:18-19 apply solely, only and
exclusively to the context of original delivery. Friends, as I
pointed out, the problem with this line of reasoning is that it
implies that nothing in the Scriptures applies to us today.
Those 66 books were written long, long ago, far, far away to
people long dead and gone. If Brooks' reasoning is taken to its
logical conclusion, the foregoing inference follows.
Friends, the inherent implication of the negative position under
this proposition is amazingly unscriptural. The negative
position maintains that there is no need to respect the silence
of the Scriptures. According to Brooks, silence in the
Scriptures allows the freedom to interpret as necessary. Thus,
where there is silence, anything goes. I charge that the logical
extension of this line of reasoning allows one to add to God's
word, and still maintain his approval and approbation. The
negative position here is clearly in violation of each passage I
cited (Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6, I Corinthians 4:6,
Revelation 22:18-19). It is not now, nor has it ever been
acceptable to add to God's word. God's word is available to us
only, solely and exclusively without addition, subtraction or
modification.
I have affirmed my proposition by asking and answering three
questions. One, do the Scriptures specifically educate us
concerning their own silence? Two, do the Scriptures claim for
themselves to be authoritative in their silence? Three, do the
Scriptures provide examples where silence opposite a direct
command bound individuals to a prescribed course of action? I
affirm that the answer to all three questions is "yes", and I
have demonstrated the truth of these statements across the
Scriptures, thus fully engaging the proposition. Many of these
arguments pass with absolutely no reply from Mr. Brooks.
Nevertheless, my affirmative burden of proof under the topic is
discharged.
I extend my thanks to all for your kind attention to my
articles. I have thoroughly enjoyed the thought, study and
reflection required in this effort.
Randy Dodson