Billingsly/Benton Debate on The Gospels
Dan Billingsly's Second Rebuttal
Proposition:
The scriptures teach that one will be blessed today who obeys Jesus' righteous principles for His
kingdom described to some extent in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the parts of their
documents that describe what Jesus said before He died on the cross.
Affirm: Terry Benton
Deny: Dan Billingsly
From the unscriptural looks of Terry's second affirmative, it is apparent that he offered no proof
for his proposition in the first affirmative and now he offers none in this 2nd. He literally has
offered no scriptural arguments that prove his proposition. Let's take a look.
Terry's Fatal Flaw In Romans 8:3-4
Right in line with the denominational interpretation of Romans 8:3-4, Terry interprets "the law of
sin and death" in this passage as the Old Testament law of Moses. However, this phrase refers to
"the law of sin and death" (Gen. 2:9-17), -- "the law written in the heart" (Rom. 2:13-14), or
"another law" that Paul could see in his body of flesh (Rom. 7:23-24). "The law of sin and death" in
Romans 8:4 does not refer to the Old Testament law of Moses for two reasons.
"23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me
into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of
God; but with the flesh the law of sin" (Rom. 8:23-25).
1. "The law of sin and death" (Rom. 8:3) applies to all non-covenant youth and alien sinners and
the "lust of the flesh. "This is the law of God's sinless nature and innocence created in every infant
as they are born into every part of the world. As Adam was made in the "image of God" (Gen.
1:27) so is each infant is born today in the "image of God." God commanded Adam not to eat of
the fruit of "the knowledge of good and evil," and explained that the moment Adam broke this
commandment he would die. God said Adam, you sin you die and thus was revealed "law of sin
and death" to which Paul refers in Romans 8:3-4.
This divine moral law governs youth in their innocence, but youth under the temptation of the
"lust of the flesh" cannot maintain their sinlessness under this law because they are "weak through
the flesh" (Rom. 8:3). This is the law that all non-covenant innocent youth -- from the four
corners of the earth -- transgress today when they reach "the age of accountability" and become
alien sinners and in need of the salvation through new covenant law.
The Bible teaches that all men today are accountable to God under divine law, but the Bible does
not teach that all men today are accountable to God under divine covenant law. Innocent youth
and alien sinners are accountable to God under the "law of sin and death" (Rom. 8:3-4), and all
new covenant Christians are accountable to God under Christ's new covenant law in Acts 2
through Revelation 22. Faith in and obedience to the New Testament law of Christ -- "the law of
the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus" -- the new covenant gospel of Christ (1 Cor. 15:1-4) makes the
Christian free from the condemnation of the "law of sin and death."
2. "The law of sin and death" in Romans 8:3-4 cannot refer to the Old Testament law of Moses,
for the law of Moses ended at the cross of Christ (Rom. 10:4) -- decades before Paul wrote the
book of Romans. Paul knew this and wrote that Christ "nailed" the old covenant law of Moses to
the cross (Col. 2:14), and at the time of the cross in 33 AD all living Jews became "dead to the
law." Paul asserts in Romans 8:3-4 that all alien sinners become free from the "law of sin and
death" when they obey the New Testament gospel -- the "law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus."
Gentiles, the non-covenant alien sinners of the Mosaical age, were never under the Old Testament
law of Moses and could not be made free from the law when they obeyed the New Testament
gospel.
Terry has blundered again. He has depended too much on denominational teaching. His ignorance
is glaring in the use of this argument. There are six different laws that Paul refers to in the book of
Romans, and these laws must be separated and understood in the apostolic "text and context."
Every gospel preacher today should know that Romans 8:3-4 is not referring to the Old Testament
law of Moses.
Terry, please don't argue this point any further, I have written a 202 page book on Romans' 8 and
God's Moral Law -- The Law Of Sin And Death -- And Christ's New Covenant Law Of Salvation.
Because Terry has completely misunderstood Romans 8:3-4, this means that every argument that
he makes on this passage is erroneous and completely false.
However, even if Romans 8:3-4 was speaking of the Old Testament law of Moses, Terry is still
preaching false doctrine for the New Testament condemns Terry's idea that a Christian is to fulfill
the righteousness of the Old Testament law of Moses. Just follow the arguments below.
First, readers remember, no interpretation of any verse of Scripture is correct if it contradicts
another verse of Scripture within the same book and/or covenant. This is Terry's mistake with his
interpretation of the Old Testament law of Moses in MMLJBC. In his misinterpretation of each of
the proof-verses that he uses in an attempt to prove his proposition, he contradicts hundreds of
clear and plain passages within the same book and/or other books within the same covenant. We
will prove this as we examine each proof-verse he uses.
Terry says,
"Dear reader, it is a pleasure to prove to you that you will not be cursed and go to hell
if you believe and act upon the basis of something stated in the early parts of the four New
Testament gospels."
Now notice what Christ, the Holy Spirit and the apostles teach concerning New Testament
Christians in the new covenant church who attempt to keep the teaching and righteousness of the
Old Testament law of Moses from MMLJBC in this new covenant age of Acts 2 through
Revelation 22.
"16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ,
even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by
the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified" (Gal. 2:16).
"4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen
from grace" (Gal. 5:4).
Readers, I will let you decide on whether Christ, the Holy Spirit and the apostles or Terry is
telling the truth.
Righteousness Of The Law
What is covenant righteousness? It is keeping the commandments of the covenant.
Terry and readers, please note the following new covenant statements of Jesus Christ, the Holy
Spirit and new covenant apostles about the "righteousness" of the Old Testament law of Moses.
"20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is
the knowledge of sin.
21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law
and the prophets; " (Rom. 3:20).
The apostle Paul states that New Testament "righteousness" is without the law of Moses. Terry is
wrong again.
Notice in Romans 3:20, how Christ, the Holy Spirit and the apostles demolish Terry's argument
that the New Testament Christian and church is to "fulfill the righteousness" of the Old Testament
law of Moses. Christ says in verse 21, "But now the righteousness of God without the law is
manifested..." Here the apostle Paul speaks of new covenant "righteousness" without the Old
Testament law of Moses. This is far different from old covenant "righteousness" within the new
covenant for which Terry argues. Who is right, Terry or Paul?
New Testament "righteousness" is not warmed-over "righteousness" from the Old Testament law
of Moses as Terry would have you to believe.
Paul makes it clear that the Old Testament "righteousness" Christ taught and practiced during the
last thirty-three years of the Old Testament age and as describe in MMLJBC, cannot justify Jew
or Gentile in this New Testament age. Terry is trying to do the same thing that the Jews were did
in the 1st century after Acts 2. They created a human "righteousness" that would neither save nor
receive God's blessing.
"1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own
righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those
things shall live by them. 6But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise..." (Rom.
10:1-6).
Paul makes it clear in Romans 10:1-6, that he desired and prayed for former Old Testament Jews,
who were now alien sinners, to be saved in this new covenant age by obedience to the New
Testament gospel. The apostle Paul makes it clear that while these unbelieving Jews were
ignorant of God's New Testament "righteousness" in Christ, they were still laboring under the
"righteousness" of the old covenant law of Moses. Those Jews were trying to establish their own
"righteousness" by attempting to perpetuate the Old Testament law of Moses. Sounds just like
Terry, doesn't it?
Readers, Christ, the Holy Spirit and the apostles in Romans 10:1-6, make it clear that by his death
on the cross, Christ was the END of the Old Mosaical covenant and its "righteousness." Old
Testament "righteousness" ENDED at the cross by the death of Christ; therefore, Christ does not
expect the New Testament church today to "fulfill" Old Testament "righteousness" (keeping the
commandments of the law of Moses that he taught in MMLJBC). Old covenant "righteousness"
was taken away, abolished and nailed to the cross (2 Cor. 3:6-14; Col. 2:14). Terry's theology of
human "righteousness" makes the cross of Christ null and void.
The Passover
Once again Terry goes to the Old Testament to prove his concept of New Testament doctrine.
However, his example about the Passover is unscriptural. As Terry freely acknowledges, "Israel
had been under a different law system from Patriarchal time and in Egypt. That's right, the
passover command of Exodus 12 was given to earlier Jews in the continuation and renewal of the
old Patriarchal covenants that God made with Abraham, and renewed with Isaac and Jacob.
God made a new and different covenant with Moses and the house of Israel at Mt. Sinai (Ex. 20).
A covenant that was different in doctrine from the former covenants.
"1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments
which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3The LORD made not this covenant
with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day" (Deut. 5:1-3).
In this new covenant with Israel, God gave a new and different commandment for the observance
of the Passover (Deut. 16). Once again, Terry is wrong because he doesn't understand the
difference between the covenants. Both of Terry's arguments on "righteousness" and the
"Passover," like all sectarian error, lies fallen in the street. Terry can't get anything right because
he argues outside the teaching of the covenants.
As we will see, Terry, like all denominations who want to combine Old and New Testament
teaching, seek to make a difference between circumcision, animal sacrifices, the sabbath, the ten
commandments and the rest of the law of Moses. But dear readers, Terry and the denominational
churches just cannot arbitrarily "pick and choose" their doctrine from all different covenants of the
Bible. Old covenant teaching of the law of Moses was never a part of the new covenant that
Christ has made with the church. Terry needs to learn that the Bible can only be scripturally
interpreted by whole or complete covenants.
1. Romans 8:3-4: Paul is not teaching here that the "righteousness" of the old covenant law of
Moses , "righteousness" found in obeying the more than 600 commandments in the law, would be
bound on the New Testament Christian and church in this New Testament age. In this passage,
Paul is teaching that by keeping the commandments of the new covenant, because it is a "better
covenant established on better promises" in Christ ( Heb. 8:6), the Christian would more than
fulfill all of the requirements and "righteousness" found earlier in the Old Testament law of
Moses. Terry finds no help for his failing proposition in Romans 8.
2. Romans 13:8-10: Just like Romans 8:3-4, this passage points to the fact that these Jews in Rome
who had formerly been under the Old Testament law of Moses in MMLJBC, but now having
become New Testament Christians and by faithfully keeping the New Covenant of Christ in Acts
2 through Revelation 22 -- would accomplish more and fulfill all that the Old Testament law of
Moses ever required.
It is absurd for Terry to claim that Romans 8 and 13 teach that Christ has bound all of the more
than 600 commandments designed to produce righteousness among Old Testament Jews under
the law of Moses -- on the New Testament church. Paul denies Terry's doctrine in these two
New Testament Scripture.
"I do not frustrate the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in
vain" (Gal. 2:21).
"Therefore by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified" (Rom. 3:21).
Terry's interpretation of Romans 8 and 13 is wrong and his exegesis or explanation is wrong
because it is in conflict with Romans 3:21 and Galatians 2:21.
Terry then goes on to teach, "... it is certainly all right to do what Jesus said was righteous, even if
it was expressed under the law." Wow! What an unscriptural thing for a gospel preacher to say.
Readers, let's ask Terry the following. When Jesus commanded Jews to "...offer the gifts (animal
sacrifices in the Jerusalem temple) that Moses commanded" -- it was a righteous thing for Jews to
do under the Old Testament law of Moses (Matt. 8:1-4). Is this a righteous thing for New
Testament Christians to do? Does Terry and the Trussville church of Christ offer animal sacrifices
in the temple at Jerusalem? NO!
When Jesus commanded his Jewish disciples to fast (Matt. 6:16-18) -- it was a righteous thing
for Jews to do under the Old Testament law of Moses . Is this a righteous thing for New Testament
Christians to do? Does Terry and the Trussville, AL congregation fast according to the Old Testament
law of Moses? NO!
When Jesus commanded his Jewish disciples to eat the Passover feast in Matthew 26 -- it was a
righteous thing for Jews to do under the Old Testament law of Moses. Is this a righteous thing for
New Testament Christians to do today? Does Terry and the Trussville church eat the Old
Testament Passover?
Terry is simply wrong on every argument that he makes about the Old Testament law of Moses
being New Testament doctrine.
3. Ephesians 6:1-3: Paul gives the New Testament commandment in verse 1, "Children, obey
your parents in the Lord, for this is right." The word "Lord" here means Jesus Christ, not Jehovah
God. Then Paul quotes Exodus 20:12 to show that God gave a similar law in the Mosaical
covenant to Old Testament Israel.
In Ephesians 2:8-9, Paul has already taught the Ephesian Christians that the church is "saved" by
New Testament grace -- not by the Old Testament works of the law of Moses or works of the
heathen Gentile religions in Ephesus. To be scripturally understood, Ephesians 6:1-3 must be
interpreted in harmony with Ephesians 2:8-9.
Terry's interpretation of Ephesians 6:1-3 is wrong and his exegesis or explanation is wrong
because it is in conflict with Ephesians 2:8-9.
Tell us Terry, is Exodus 20:8, "Remember the Sabbath, and keep it holy." also New Testament
doctrine? Terry must learn that there is nothing inherently evil about the apostles quoting the Old
Testament law of Moses. They did it often to show 1st century Jewish Christians that in keeping
the commandments and law of Christ in the New Testament, they were more than fulfilling the
requirements of the Old Testament law of Moses.
Many Jews of the 1st century were reluctant to turn away from the law of Moses and embrace
Christ and the New Testament church for fear that they would not be doing the "will of God."
Quite often, the apostles explained to Jewish Christians that in obeying Christ -- they were
obeying the New Testament "will of God" and thus doing and fulfilling all that God required of
them in this New Testament age (Col. 4:12). Terry must learn that the Old Testament law of
Moses is not our enemy -- it is just not New Testament doctrine (See Romans 15:4)..
4. Galatians 5:13-14: Again, Paul speaks of New Testament doctrine in verse 13 and a similar Old
Testament doctrine from Leviticus 19:18 in verse 14. Tell us Terry, do you offer "peace offerings"
to the Lord (Lev. 19:5-8)? Are the "peace offerings" of Leviticus 19 New Testament doctrine?
Again, Terry must learn that there is nothing inherently evil about the Old Testament law of
Moses -- it is just not New Testament doctrine. Terry still hasn't proven his proposition.
Terry's interpretation of Galatians 5:13-14 stands in stark conflict with Galatians 5:4, therefore
Terry's interpretation and exegesis of Galatians 5:13-14 is wrong.
5. 2 Timothy 2:16-17: Paul said that the Old Testament law of Moses was a "schoolmaster" to
bring the Jews to Christ (Gal. 3:24), and it made the Jews "wise unto salvation." All Old
Testament Scripture during the old covenant age taught old covenant salvation for the Jews in
Israel. Timothy and his family had earlier lived under the law of Moses during the Old Testament
age, and the during that time the law of Moses was profitable for the salvation of Jews. The Old
Testament law of Moses was profitable for salvation during the old covenant age, but now only
the New Testament of Jesus Christ is profitable for salvation.
When the New Testament age began in Acts 2, in all of Paul's new covenant books that he
authored, he repeatedly taught that now only New Testament Scripture in Acts 2 through
Revelation 22 was profitable for salvation. More than any other New Testament writer, Paul
taught that the Old Testament law of Moses was abolished and nailed to the cross (2 Cor. 3:6-14;
Col. 2:14), and could not be used for access to God and for salvation. Paul taught that Christ "took
away" the Old Testament law of Moses by his death on the cross (Heb. 10:9-10). Paul taught that
all Jews became dead to the law by the body of Christ on the cross (Rom. 7:4).
In this New Testament age, one can be blessed only "in Christ" -- in the New Testament church.
For today "all spiritual blessings" are "in Christ" and his New Testament doctrine. There is no
New Testament "blessing" in the Old Testament doctrine of the law of Moses.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly
dividing the word of truth" (2 Tim. 2:15).
Terry's interpretation of 2 Timothy 16-17 is wrong and his exegesis or explanation is wrong
because it is in conflict with 2 Timothy 2:15.
6. Romans 2:14-15, 26-27: Finally, Terry admits that he is teaching obedience to the Old
Testament law of Moses for the Lord's New Testament church. However, he wants to divide the
Old Testament law of Moses into different parts so he can teach some as New Testament doctrine
and some as law pertaining only to Old Testament Israel.
Unfortunately, Terry doesn't realize the "the law written in the heart" of the Gentiles was the "law
of sin and death" (Gen. 2:9-17; Rom. 2:14-15; 7:23; 8:1-2) and not the law of Moses. The Gentiles
could not have fulfilled the righteousness of the law of Moses for they did not even know what the
law of Moses represented.
The Scriptures teach that there was no covenant law of salvation from sin for the Gentiles during
the Mosaical age (Eph. 2:11-12).
Terry argues
"...while it is true that the law of Moses has been nailed to the cross, there is something in the
law that needs to be fulfilled in us as Christians."
Terry, divine inspiration teaches that only Old Testament Jews -- old covenant children of God
were accountable to the law of Moses. During the Old Testament Mosaical age, only the Jews as
the physical seed of Abraham were under the law of Moses. Gentiles were not under or
accountable to the Old Testament law of Moses during the Mosaical age (Romans 2); neither are
alien sinners or New Testament Christians under the Old Testament law of Moses in this New
Testament age.
What Terry doesn't understand is that only Jews in Old Testament Israel, from the time of Moses
to the death of Christ, were accountable to the Old Testament law of Moses. Gentiles nations
were never under or subject to the Old Testament law of Moses. The Old Testament nation of
Israel -- the Jews, and the heathen Gentiles of the old covenant age were never "brethren" in the
Lord.
Terry's interpretation of Romans 2:12-13, 26-27 is wrong and his exegesis or explanation is
wrong because it is in conflict with Romans 3:21 and 8:3-4.
Question for Terry: Can a New Testament Christian be faithful to Christ and be saved eternally
without fulfilling the righteousness of the Old Testament law of Moses?
How can we take Terry seriously when he offers the following erroneous argument.
"As ministers of the New Covenant (2 Cor. 3:6), it is alright to believe that "All Scripture"
(including the scripture of the Old Testament) is profitable for doctrine (2 Tim. 2:16-17)."
Terry is simply wrong, wrong, wrong.